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- From: insystem@pathcom.com (Geoffrey Welsh)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: Re: To V42Bis or not to V42Bis??
- Date: 9 Feb 1996 02:29:07 GMT
- Organization: InSystems Technologies Inc.
- Message-ID: <4febhj$7aq@pathway1.pathcom.com>
- References: <4ej6rh$oa2@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> <4eruq2$e2@hg.oro.net> <4etjse$a0g@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> <4f0jnq$dr7@hg.oro.net> <DM9p11.Gn6@freenet.carleton.ca> <eric-0502962347460001@sobt.accessorl.net>
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- In article <eric-0502962347460001@sobt.accessorl.net>,
- eric@accessorl.net (Eric Shaw) wrote:
- >In article <DM9p11.Gn6@freenet.carleton.ca>, an171@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
- >(Anthony Hill) wrote:
- >> If you transfer pre-compressed files (eg .ZIP files), you can not
- >>compress them any more using v.42bis (or MNP5 for that matter). MNP5
- >
- >Well, not much anyways, but you can a little bit. Since v.42 bis is smart
- >enough to figure out which packets it can and can't compress, it comes out
- >a little bit ahead even on ZIPs (unless the modems compression engine is
- >slow), because the packets in the ZIP header containing file paths (which
- >ZIP leaves uncompressed) get compressed.
-
- Unfortunately not. V.42bis _allows_ a transmitter to switch compression on
- and off at any time, but no modem builder in their right mind compresses a
- packet and then sends the shorter of the compressed and uncompressed version
- because the added latency of not transmitting the data until a packet has been
- formed and compressed would be a definite disadvantage.
-
- I'm told (by folks from modem companies) that most algorithms simply keep
- track of whether they've been losing ground and switch the compression off if
- they have been (exact decision formula is up to the implementor). I have to
- assume that the modem continues to compress the data if if it has already
- decided to send uncompressed data, just in case the nature of the data changes
- and the track record suggests that it would be better to send the compressed
- stream.
-
- At no time does the modem have the option of going back and changing data
- already sent under the less efficient approach and it's not done on a packet
- by packet basis, so any smart modem builder will leave data compression off if
- the data is wavering on the edge of 'compressability'.
-
- Geoffrey Welsh
-